Are You CREEPY For Learning to Pickup Chicks?

0:00 Welcome to the Unapologetic Man Podcast. The only podcast that's all about self-improvement, confidence, success, money, women, and being a fucking man without making any apologies for it. I'm your host, Mark Sing. And I'm John Anthony. And today we are going to talk about whether or not learning how to attract girls is creepy. And also one thing I wanted to say is check us out. We're on video now. Woo! What's up, guys? Nice to meet you all. Thanks for coming. We're hoping this will make it a little bit more interactive so you can actually see what your hosts look like.

0:36 I know for myself, I like to watch podcasts where you can actually see the guy when it's just audio and you have to look at a picture the whole time. Not that engaging. So hopefully this makes it more interesting. But thanks for showing up and hopefully we'll give you some good content today. So you got your coffee. I got my peppermint tea. Cheers. This one. Yeah, cheers, buddy. All right. So the reason we're talking about this is because I got an email from a family member the other day that I hadn't talked to in a long time.

1:08 And he's like, so what are you doing? You know, what do you do for work? Because he kind of he didn't really understand what I was doing for work. And I said, well, I help men to attract women. I help them gain confidence. I help them gain self-esteem. And he said something along the lines of, oh, that's pretty creepy. And, you know, it kind of got a rise out of me. Most times, if anybody else said that, I wouldn't care. But when it's a family member, pisses in your river a little bit.

1:31 So I was thinking about it and I was like, you know, the conclusion I came to is that I think it's creepy not to learn how to attract women. Yeah. Because when you don't know how to do it, you're approaching women with the wrong kind of approach. You're being creepy. They don't know what your intentions are. And you just look like a creeper, like a jackass. And then I was thinking, well, people who think learning how to attract women is creepy, they must think that we're like using some manipulative like technique to trick them into like falling in love with us.

2:07 Right. Like we set out these, these like pitfalls for them to fall into. But then that's assuming that women are pretty damn stupid. If they can be manipulated that easily, how stupid do you think women are to think that I'm creepy for manipulating them in such a way? No, what you're doing, and you've said this before, is you're learning how to be how you'd be any way if you were attractive to women. You're not learning like manipulations. Yeah, there's some certain things you can do and there's certain techniques and there's, you know, there's important concepts to realize, but it's not like you're learning this like tricky manipulative magic thing where she's naked in your bed.

2:43 She's like, how did I get here? I feel so like taken advantage of. You know what I mean? No, it's like you're becoming the champion that you have within you otherwise. And I always like to say that you're born a champion, but through life's experiences, you're like, you know, you get low value mannerisms, you get insecure, you get these things that happen to you because of like life's travails. But ultimately, we all have high self-esteem within us and this niche that we're in, learning how to attract women, basically brings you back to that natural self-esteem that you were born with.

3:16 So is it creepy? Hell no. Exactly. Yeah. And by the way, I think we forgot to mention too, we have a product guys that's $7. We're going to talk about it at the end. So please stay tuned until the very end. $7, man. It's an awesome product. Dude, this is like one of our best selling products. You really want to get your hands on it. So if you too think that learning how to attract women isn't creepy, well, this is going to give you a lot of good shit for how to attract women.

3:43 So stay tuned until the end. We're going to tell you all about it, get you in the door, make you much more effective with women. Definitely. And so, yeah, I mean, like, dude, you know, my, the reactions that I've gotten from people that I've told what I do, you know, like, like I usually start off and I'm just like, yeah, I do internet marketing, you know, cause I've learned over time that like so many people can't understand the fact that like you can actually become a better person and become more attractive to women, right?

4:10 It's like, that's the average person's reality is so fucking like low and just like narrow minded and condensed. They think that like, whatever you're born with, this is just what you are. And the only way to get girls is to basically be like a millionaire. And that's the only way you can ever get girls, right? They don't understand like, no, like if you become a better person, if you become a man who's in his prime and you work on yourself, you become more confident, et cetera, then you can get girls.

4:39 And, you know, like there's just so much chode thinking surrounding this, like you said, cause like, I mean, the fact that guys think that like, it's manipulative to pick up girls, like how dumb do you think they are? Like, do you remember it's like Mark, Mark writes a sales copy, right? And I'm sure you remember those like old, old copy writing lines from like the fucking like late nineties, early two thousands where it's like, say these three words and watch her panties slide off, like hack her subconscious, like shit like that.

5:06 Or like the NLP, like, you know, the, the weird misuse of NLP shit. Like how dumb do you guys think women are that like, you can just say these three magic words and like, she's going to like black out and go into a trance and fucking like suck your dick. Like it's, that's stupid. That's not how it works. Right. What it really is. It's, it's becoming a more attractive man, becoming confident. And of course there's like lines that you learn how to say from experience. You'll get a lot of the same questions over and over.

5:33 Like, are you a player? I bet this line works on all the other girls, doesn't it? Like shit like that. So you kind of remember like some canned lines of course, but I mean like in general, it's actually pretty simple. It's just, you become more masculine, more assertive, more dominant. You'll learn how to relate to women on a man to female level and they love it. And again, like you said, you know, what's fucking creepy is not knowing how to do these things. Cause then that's when you get the guys that like, they go on one date with a girl and they won't stop texting her 20 times a day for the next fucking three months.

6:03 Right. That's where you get like the horror stories where girls are like, yeah, like you wouldn't leave me alone. He stalked me like all this shit. Those are guys that don't know how to pick up girls. Like, so in many ways, not to toot our own horn here, but we're actually doing society a fucking service. I think by teaching men how to man up, that's like saying it's like, it's creepy or wrong to learn how to throw a baseball. It's creepy or wrong to learn how to play golf.

6:25 It's creepy or wrong to learn how to surf. Like you have to learn this shit because ultimately picking up women is a very counterintuitive kind of thing. What do most guys think? They think that you pick up a woman the same way that you get a friend. You go up, you give compliments, you build commonalities, you, you buddy up with them. When you guys have something in common, you say, Oh, you, you hate the rain too. So do I high five. But if you do that with a girl, it just shows low value.

6:52 It shows that you're trying to get something from her. And that's what a creepy guy does. That's what creepy guys do is they go up and they try to get something from her. So what we're teaching you to do is go up and break rapport. All you're doing is going up and giving her this really good energy. What I always say to my students is instead of being a go getter, get, which is to take, you're a go giver. You're just giving, you're giving good energy.

7:16 You're giving a good vibe, but you don't care what happens. Whatever happens, happens. You're just going up there for your own entertainment and to entertain her. And you're not trying to pull her into the outcome that you hope will manifest. Well, creepy guys do that all the time. And then they get pissed. I've been watching like a lot of murder mystery shows and a lot of murders happen. I mean, I'm not saying, you know, this is chodes, bro. It's chodes who get rejected by a girl and they're like obsessing over her.

7:44 They're like, this is the girl. This is the girl. And they get rejected by a girl and then they go and they will like murder her. Or that's oftentimes how rapes happen. That's oftentimes how violence happens. So a lot of guys who are like violent towards women who hate women are the creepy guys who don't learn this stuff. When you learn this shit, you learn to love women. I absolutely love women. I mean, absolutely love everything about them. Their voices, the way they smell, the way they feel, even their emotional stuff.

8:12 I think it's so fucking cute. I love women so much. And that's because I know how they think. I understand what's going on in their head. But when you don't understand it, it's so counterintuitive. It can be maddening. And then you get people who don't pull. I'm not going to say anything about my family member here, but I'm just saying you get people who don't get girls and they look at guys like us who do, guys like us who teach guys like you to get girls and they say we're creepy.

8:39 And it like, it kind of got under my skin a little bit. And I was like, why is it getting under my skin? That's an issue I have to deal with. Him and I have history through my whole life. You know what I'm saying? He's kind of said these kinds of things to me. Shouldn't matter to me. But it did. And I was like, man, let's do a podcast on this because I'm sure there are a lot of guys listening to this who are learning, who are getting the same pushback from their family members, from their friends.

9:04 You know, if you get a product in the mail that says how to get girls, you're going to get so much shit for it because people are scared. They think it's manipulative. They think it should just happen magically. You just walk outside and there she is. And you have to just pour your heart into her and give her flowers and leave poems on her car and she'll fall in love with you. And then when that doesn't work, you get angry and then you get pissed off at guys like us who understand what does work.

9:28 It just comes from resentment because you're a failure. You know what I'm saying? It does. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, fundamentally, we should probably talk about what creepy is too. So, I mean, I think fundamentally like creepiness is basically, it's a couple of things, but one thing that comes to mind is you have this idea of what your relationship with a girl should be like, and it's not in tune with reality, right? So like if you just met her and you, you, you're acting like you fucking are dating for a year and a half, that's creepy because it's not congruent with reality, right?

10:00 That's creepy. So, you know, when you fucking just meet a girl and you go on one date with her and you immediately text her every day for like the next fucking three months. And, and if, if, and, and even worse, if she doesn't respond, you say shit like, are you too busy for me now? And you throw that fucking resentful bullshit out, are you too busy for me now? I thought we had a connection, like that shit is just like so creepy, right? And so that's why a lot of the time Mark and I, we talk about like, you know, we'll say things like the, the surface level stuff, like don't text girls back immediately or like whatever, but it all comes down to that underlying mindset where those behaviors are coming from.

10:37 And the underlying mindset is that you're not a man on your purpose, right? So, you know, again, like it's creepy to not know how to engage with women and flirt with women and deal with women, right? That's what's fucking creepy. That's where you get weirdos who like, you know, you go out at the bars and you'll see fucking guys that like, they like clearly don't know what they're doing. And they like, just, I remember this one vivid scenario and it was so uncomfortable to watch where this, these, these two pretty girls were like somewhere over there.

11:04 And this guy like came up with this, you could feel like the negative energy, like coming off of him. And he just like went up, he's like, Hey, he was like super like aggressive and like, it's like he was doing a fucking military. You're like, girl, he's just like, and it was like, ah, and I was just like so turned off by it, you know? And, um, yeah, that guy just needs to fucking, to fucking read our products, dude. Like, yeah, it's like, you just, you can't fucking, you, you, you gotta get this shit handled the guys.

11:27 Like if you don't have it handled, you're not going to have a good life. Like you need women in your life. You need to date a girl. It's eventually maybe, you know, if you want to get married, like it's creepy to not know these things, you know? And what's funny too, Mark, is like, if you bring your friends out that aren't into this, that say it's like weird or whatever. Yeah. And then like, you're having success with the girls out in the club, you're talking to girls, et cetera.

11:49 Do they ever just like not try to talk to the girls, you know? Like never. Like it's like you, you do the work of picking up a girl and then these, these chodes who were like, pick up the stupid, they'll come in and try to talk to the girl and steal her away from you and creep her out and then she'll leave. And it's like, dude, can you just learn to pick up girls? Like, can you please just learn to like be a charismatic dude? Who's like a giver, a go giver and not a go trying to take.

12:12 Right, right. And yeah, I mean, I've had so many bad reactions from, from my family too, from people that like don't understand this, you know, like I don't think I've ever said this, but my, when I was in college before I dropped out of college and became a Bitcoin millionaire, I was probably 20 years old at the time. And my blog was like just starting up. I was like just barely like putting the blog up. I had maybe 10, 20 articles up compared to the hundreds now. And, uh, my, my dad actually found out about it.

12:40 And in between semesters, I was living at my parents' house and he threatened to kick me out if I didn't clean up my blog. Right. And in my head, I was just like, dude, I'm just like, yeah, dude, he was, he was like maximum, like pissed off about it, you know? Huh. And, um, you know, so there's some people that just like, they just can't understand the idea that you can actually get better with women and it's always the chose that think those things. And, um, you know, so what I'll do now is like, if I, I'm, I'm very, I brush it off.

13:09 Right. If people ask what I do, I'm just like, oh yeah, like I work at McDonald's, just like something that's obviously not true. Or I'm like, you know, yeah, I deal drugs. Right. And maybe I'll say something like, oh, I'm an internet marketer. Right. But you want to be careful who you, uh, who you like show yourself to, so to speak. Um, you know, you always want to be honest, but like, keep in mind guys, like some, some guys are just chody as fuck and it doesn't matter how much you try to tell them these things.

13:33 They're not going to understand because they need that cold, hard experience to realize like, shit, I suck with girls and I haven't gotten laid in three months. Maybe I should fucking do something about this. Right. Fundamentally, you can't give someone those experiences. And they just have to realize it themselves. A couple of things being, being creepy, um, coming up with an approach where it's obvious you're trying to get something out of her, touching her too soon, asking for the phone number when she's not attracted yet, putting her in an uncomfortable situation and think about how this makes the girls feel when you don't know how to talk to them.

14:08 It's really gross. Right. And as I'm sure you get this too, like you were saying that whenever you have a lot of girls around you, which you and I do, when we go out, we get a lot of chodes that come up to us and try to basically ride on our coattails or shame us too. And, and it's just like the way they, so like, I'll have a lot of guys come up to me and like put their arm around me. First of all, you're touching me, bro.

14:32 Like they, like they know you, like they've known you for 10 years. I don't fucking know you. I know what you're doing. Like you're trying to get the girls like, fuck off. Dude, I don't know you, bro. Like, please don't touch me, man. I'm always like, dude, like, don't touch me, bro. What's up? And if you, and even if you come up to a guy and you're trying to ride on his coattails and you do it in a creepy way, I get creeped out by guys all the time.

14:51 Every Thursday night I go out. I'm like, dude, like get away from me, man. Like you're just creeping me out. But if you come up and you're cool. And again, you give a bro. I saw you. You're doing awesome, man. Would it mind? Would you be cool if I just kind of hung out with you guys for a little bit? Even if you come up with me, to me with that, I'll be way more responsive than like, what's up, bro? I see you're doing a great job with the girls.

15:11 What's your secret, man? What's your secret? What's your secret? It's like, dude, get the fuck out of here, man. Like, don't touch me. So it's just social calibration and you learn it when you learn how to get girls. So while I can understand that chodes will look at guys like us and say, you're creepy. The reason they say that is because they don't know what this niche entails. They don't know the kind of things that we teach. But ultimately, you're becoming more socially intelligent. You're becoming more confident.

15:38 You're getting back to your true self-esteem. You're getting your inner shit together so that when you go up to a woman and you present yourself, she's like, ah, okay, this dude's alpha. This dude's good to go. It's not like you're going up to her and trying to get that pussy because that's basically what guys are doing. You want some dick? You want some dick? You want some dick? That's what they're doing. That old Chris Rock joke. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you've said it before on this podcast.

16:01 Again, so when I hear things like that, it automatically tells me, okay, you don't get girls because you wouldn't say game recognizes game. Success recognizes success. And this person I happen to know is not attractive to women. He could be if he just worked on his shit. Shit. I would give him free coaching, man. Fucking I'll give him two hours a day. He's my family member. Let's do this. But he would never take that from me, ever. I know that you're not very socially intelligent because you don't know how to interact with people to make them feel disarmed.

16:36 Charisma is making other people feel better about themselves from having met you. So when you go up to a girl, you want to give the charisma. You want to give value. And you want to be outcome independent. When you go up and you're trying to take things from her, take her phone number, touch her in a way that she's not comfortable with, go up to her and just have this boring conversation that's adding nothing to her night. Asking her where she works, what she does for a living.

17:01 Oh, do you come here often? These kinds of like boring questions you're taking from her because she's out to get away from that kind of shit. So guys wonder why girls are such assholes to them. Well, I can kind of relate to that because when guys come up to me and have that kind of energy with me, I'm kind of a dick. I'm kind of a dick. You just want to be like, fuck off, dude. Dude, I say that sometimes. Some guy the other night walking by and he's like, hey, bro, come here.

17:25 I just look at him and I keep walking. Just ignore him. Like, what? Like, you come here. What do you – yeah. Like, you're trying to get me to come to you, bro? Like, fuck off, dude. I don't know who you are. Like, come talk to me if you want to. It's funny how you notice all these like low status attempts at being high status. Like these obvious like dorks that are trying to get status on you. You know, like when they put their arm around you and like, hey, what's up, bro?

17:46 Like, they're trying to get status on you. Or when they're like – like they'll do these little things that like it's like, dude, like I know it. Like this was like 20 levels ago. Like I'm like 20 levels beyond this shit now. Like when you first learn the game, you're like kind of dorky and you're like trying to do the same shit. But like you're 20 levels above it now. And I have a story I think that I told in Alpha Evolution, our home boot camp course, that details us very well.

18:11 And it's that, you know, I was at the mall one day and this – I was, you know, walking around shopping. I got some books at Borders and went to Nordstrom to like look at belts I think I was trying to get. And this guy came up to me and he was like, hey, man, I saw you in Borders. And so immediately I was like, this guy fucking followed me like from store to store. What the fuck, right? And he was like, oh, so you like to read, right?

18:32 And I was like, yeah, I like to read, right? And this whole time he was talking to me, I got this like vibe that like he wanted something from me but I didn't know what. And that's what girls fucking feel when you like go up and you're like – like you're trying to like get the number but you like don't know how. And it's just like weird, right? And it actually turned out that he was trying to get me to join his AMWAY, his MLM team.

18:54 Oh, shit. Which I thought was fucking hilarious. But like that's a good example of like what girls feel is like these guys come up and like they're just like, OK, like I know. He wants something but what the fuck is – like are you – do you want to rape me? Do you want to kill me? Do you want to fucking have me join your MLM? Like what do you want, you know? Yeah. And that's what's creepy is the lack of congruence, right? So congruence is the alignment between your thoughts, words, and actions.

19:22 And when there is a severance between those things, when your thoughts are how do I fuck this girl and your actions are, you know, I don't know, talking to her or something but it's in a way that's hiding your thoughts, it's fucking creepy, right? And so that's why like in my last video, I talked about how guys will buy girls things for like the first date and it's never done from a place of like giving, right? So like when I go on a date with a girl, if I like her, I'll actually buy her stuff.

19:48 But it's never like, OK, I bought you the thing now. Do you want to fuck? It's never like this creepy kind of take. It's just like, no, like you're cool. Let me just buy it. It's not a big deal. It's like $10, whatever, right? But like guys do that shit. And so that's why we say like don't buy stuff on the first date. Don't buy stuff for girls. But people don't realize like, you know, a girl hears that and she's like, what? I love it when guys buy stuff for me.

20:11 But she's thinking of the cool guy who actually means to buy it for her, not the creep who's trying to fucking buy it to get into her pants because you want to fuck now? I paid $10. Like, you know, so it's all about the place it comes from. And that being said, so it's so important when you go up to a girl to literally not give a shit what happens. And we always say this and you're like, okay, I'm not giving a shit what happens, but you're still thinking I really want to give her a number.

20:34 I really want to try to fuck this girl. No, man. Let it completely go. Even if you have to imagine her as like this fat, disgusting with a peg leg and like a bald head with zits all over her face, whatever it takes, go up there to entertain yourself and to entertain her. And I don't even like saying entertain her because then it's kind of try hard, but you're just being entertaining. You're just the social guy. You love to talk to people. You love to engage.

20:59 And now there is a direct opener approach where you state your intention. You say, hey, are you cute? I wanted to come meet you. Wanted to see if you're interesting. But what I always do is I just have the intention. Hey, I'm here. I'm fun. Who are you? Let's talk. If you're not fun, I'm out of here. Right? There's no even thinking about kissing or getting her phone number or having sex. And funny enough, when I don't think about that and I don't give a shit, it happens that much faster.

21:27 Because she knows I'm not doing that MLM like, hey, I saw you by the girl's bathroom. And I noticed you got a blue drink. You want to fuck? Creepy ass fucking like. Want to fuck? Dude, it's like, come on. You have to be very outcome independent. You don't give a shit what happens. And is that creepy? Hell no. Hell no. You're learning this right now. And your creepiness is going down like this. The creepy scale is going down and down and down because you're actually learning how to attract women.

21:58 So dudes who aren't listening to this, dudes who don't understand this shit, they're the fucking creepy ones, man. I see it every Thursday night when I go out. It's like the kind of like forehead slap. You're like, did you really just do that, man? Are you seriously? Oh, bro. And I like to watch it. And you know, like I said, man, if people come up to me and they're cool, I will offer them help. I'll actually go offer free advice to guys who seem genuine, who are really trying hard, who aren't being douchebags, who just have a slightly wrong approach.

22:27 I'll be like, hey, bro, do you mind if I give you some advice? And they'll be like, oh, yeah, you know, I'll take it. I'll be like, well, when you're going up to the girls, you're really getting in their personal space. Why don't you step back a little bit? You might want to point your toe past them so you're not directly engaged with them and engage them from a noncommittal type of body language approach. And then they'll do that kind of thing and they'll get much better results because, again, it's not like they're trying to get something out of this girl.

22:51 And that Amway – by the way, congratulations on joining Amway. I'm really interested in buying some facial cream from you, John. Yes, I'll hit you up afterwards. Yeah, yeah, I'll invest, man. I'll get in under you. But when you're trying to like close them on something, man, it's like that's the worst thing and that is what's creepy. So, again, learning this stuff is not creepy. Not learning it is what's creepy. Exactly, yeah. And, yeah, I mean there's these different characteristics that we talk about in Alpha Evolution, our home boot camp.

23:23 And I call it alpha male energy. And it's just this like – not going too deep but to sum it up, it's basically positive, dominant, assertive energy that isn't confrontational. It just is, right? It just is. It's not like trying to get anything. If anything, it's actually giving positive emotions and entertainment and fun but, again, not entertainment in the sense that you're like the clown trying to fucking get the girl's attention. Yeah, like the dancing monkey. Yeah. You're just like giving, right? And that's what's attractive and you'll see it.

23:56 Like when you're in the zone, if you've ever been in the zone because you go out and near the end of the night, if you have a good night, you get what's called in the zone. That's like the ultimate example of what we're talking about here is you're just so fucking happy. Your neurotransmitters are buzzing with serotonin and dopamine and all these good emotions because getting validation and having fun with people. And you're not trying to take anything from anyone. And when someone tries to take something from you, when you're in the zone, you have like heightened social calibration, right, from the social momentum.

24:27 And you can literally feel like someone's energy coming off if they're trying to take something, right? I don't know if you get this, Mark, but like when I'm really in the zone, like I'll be talking and I just feel like, whoa, like – and there's 10 feet away. Some guy is like walking towards me and I'm like, ugh. And I just like grab the girl and like turn her this way to like get away from him because you can feel like people – like you can feel people's intentions.

24:46 And that's what it ultimately comes down to, guys. It's like your intention with a girl should always be, hey, I just want to talk and see where it goes. It's never like, hey, like let's talk but I have this secret ulterior motive that I want to fuck you and marry you even though I don't even know you, right? It's never this like weird thing that you're hiding, right? And that's kind of what we mean in many ways I think is like by being a fucking man is like don't be like ashamed of like hiding something, like whatever.

25:13 Just like, hey, like just be who you are and just like blast them with that positive energy and you'll get a thousand times better reactions from them when you just do that. Yeah, and even if you do do the direct opener, which I've said it before is, you know, hey, I saw you standing over here. Kind of random but I thought you were cute. Wanted to come see if you were interesting. Well, you're setting the precedence that you're not trying to get something from her yet because she's the one submitting the application, right?

25:40 You're cute but obviously that's just one tick off the box. I mean you've got to be interesting. You've got to be funny. You've got to be like clean lifestyle, in shape. Like there's all these standards that you guys are going to have. So when you go up with that, she's like, okay, he's coming over here to meet me and to actually find out about me to see if I'm good enough. And that's – being creepy is you just want to fuck her because she's hot, right?

26:04 And a lot of low-value guys, that's all they care about. Is she hot? Is she banging? Is she going to fuck? Well, you have more standards than that because you're an alpha male. You're a champion who's getting after it in his life and you want a girl who's doing the same thing. So when you go up and you say something like that, even though it's a direct opener, you're not coming off as trying to get anything from her because it's very clear that she's the one, like I like to say, submitting the application.

26:29 So those are some really good tips for how not to be creepy. And again, I think the best way not to be creepy is to actually learn this stuff. And do you have anything more to say about this, John? I think we basically covered it. Yeah. I mean let's see. So we talked about what creepiness is, how not to be creepy, Chode's reactions to you being a fucking pimp. Yeah, I mean, yeah, just, you know, like realize that you're in it for yourself, guys. Like when you walk up to a girl, you should be like, you know, maybe she's hot and that got your attention, but be screening her.

27:03 Be like, don't ever just like want her without knowing who she is or what she's about because like – and to be fair, like, you know, we've all been there, right? We're all just horny and we see a hot girl we want to fuck. But what you'll learn, guys, is like when you fuck the wrong girl and you bring her into your life, it can fuck your shit up. And maybe it takes like one or two times of that happening for you to realize like, okay, maybe I should actually screen girls before I like, you know, open myself up to them.

27:30 And that's why I always say be on your purpose. Like when you're on your purpose, right, when you're naturally on your purpose, you're never going to put a woman first because your purpose comes first. It comes before your own comfort. It comes before everything else. Your purpose is number one, right? So, you know, for me, if, you know, a girl that isn't like – I'm not that into, if she hits me up and I'm doing something because my purpose is first, I'm like, no, sir, I can't hang out tonight.

27:57 I'm working or whatever, right, because my purpose comes first. But with a guy who doesn't have a purpose, who's kind of flimsy and floating around in the wind, he's like, oh, the girl hit me up, yeah. And then he just kind of takes the route of the easiest source of validation and the path of least resistance but not in a good way, right? So having your purpose will naturally just fix so much of this fucking shit. It really is the truth. One thing – this is kind of off subject, but one thing I heard on a podcast today, I was listening to the Never Quit podcast.

28:28 Have you listened to that? It's with – Jocko Willink? No, that's the Jocko podcast, but you're close. It's with Navy SEALs Marcus Luttrell, the one that Lone Survivor is based on. You ever see Lone Survivor? Yeah. I haven't listened to the podcast though. That sounds pretty badass. Yeah, it's badass, dude. Yeah, he's cool. And a couple of Navy SEALs on there. And they said – they were talking about purpose. And I know a lot of my students ask, well, how do I know what my purpose is?

28:51 And oftentimes you think you can just conjure up your purpose out of thin air. Like you can sit on the couch and think about it and be like, okay, I want to do this. I want to do that. But that's kind of not – I know exactly what you're going to say. This is so fucking key, guys. Listen to this shit right here. Listen to this guy right here. Okay, so oftentimes your purpose will come to you kind of through the back door. It's going to come to you in a way that you don't expect.

29:15 And it's going to come to you through action, right? So you're just living your life. Maybe you're going to go volunteer at a soup kitchen. Maybe you're going to help your friend with this. Maybe you're going to do this. And then suddenly you're like, holy shit, I didn't even see this over here. But this is what I really want to dedicate my life to. And it oftentimes comes in through the back door. So you think, well, I don't know what my purpose is. I'm kind of lost right now.

29:37 Don't let that get you down because you have multiple purposes throughout your life. And sometimes they change. And it often comes through the back door. So the best thing you can do is just take action. Start doing something you're interested in. Start volunteering. Start getting out there and actually doing things. Maybe even listening to this podcast and writing content about this kind of stuff we're talking about might be it. It oftentimes will come in through the back door. And again, women are most attracted to guys who are on their purpose.

30:05 So when you make the girl your purpose, you might think that's your purpose, but it isn't. And it's not going to be good because she does not want to be your number one priority. She says that's what she wants, but ultimately she doesn't want that. She wants a man who puts his purpose first. That is the most attractive thing to her. It's a shit test. That's what she's doing. She thinks that she wants to be your purpose. But if you do that, she'll rapidly lose attraction for you.

30:32 So what you said is so key. You can't just think your purpose. You make yourself by interacting with the world. And then you'll discover your purpose that way, right? Like what I think of is – I've been reading Gates of Fire. I finally picked it up again like you fucking recommended. Dude, how far through it are you? I'm right at the part where Dianne Keys is lying down and he's like – he just talked to the Persian guy who was like trying to get him to basically like submit.

31:01 And he's like regaling the detail of how he got all his scars and shit in battle. Oh, so sick. The one on his fucking skull. Yeah. And as I'm reading this – Did he breathe fire and his fucking lung is burned? Remember that part? No. I don't. Oh, maybe it's coming up in the story. Dude, probably. Dude, but it's like badass and like that's what I think of when I think of a man on his purpose is like – you're like – their purpose is like defend the fucking city.

31:23 Like that's more important like – like which do you want to be, guys? Do you want to be like – you want the flowers so you can fuck me or do you want to be like let's defend this fucking city to the death, bitch? Like that's what I want to be is like the fucking conqueror, warrior, badass. And it's just below your dignity to like supplicate and like make a girl your purpose. Like make being a fucking man and like getting on your shit as a purpose and then women will see like, OK, this guy is going places.

31:50 He's attractive and they will come into your life naturally. And you'd be amazed at how much it naturally fixes things. You know, you can make finding your purpose your purpose. Yeah. Like right now if you don't have a purpose, be like, OK, my purpose is to find my purpose. And I think one of the best ways to do that is with self-improvement, right? You might be a little bit out of shape. You might not be – have the best diet. You might not be the best with women, which is why you're listening to this.

32:14 You want to get better self-esteem. You want coaching. I've been working with a guy and he's struggling to get his purpose. He thought he had a purpose doing this one thing, but he realized that this might not be my purpose. I've kind of mastered it. I'm not really having a lot of fun doing it. So what's my purpose now? And I said, you're good because you're working with me and you're improving yourself every day. I mean this guy is improving so rapidly with the coaching and all the self-work that he's doing.

32:39 I guarantee you in a month he's going to be like, bro, like I found out what I want to do. I'm going to do this and that. So get excited. If you don't have a purpose, get excited because when you find it, there's so much motivation and enthusiasm waiting for you to get after that purpose that it's just amazing. It creates an amazing life for yourself. John, what is your purpose? To help men right now, to grow my business and help other men. Yep, me too.

33:05 So my purpose is to become the very best version of myself and help other men do the same thing. And that is so creepy. It's creepy as fuck, dude. What are you doing? You're fucking creep, dude. How dare you try to help other men improve themselves? God damn it. Creepy. I'm fucking up. I'm fucking up. You're disgusting. So yeah, that's my purpose too. So that may not be your purpose. And I mean I was thinking about it too. I was like, well, these Navy SEALs, their purpose is to learn how to kill people and go to Afghanistan and fuck as many people up as they can.

33:38 It's a purpose just like – was it Dianiches? I can't pronounce his name. And Leonidas. Dianiches, I think, yeah. You know, Spartans, that was their purpose. Yeah. So your purpose can change throughout your life and then it changed. Like for Marcus Luttrell, the lone survivor dude, he – bro, that guy is – dude, he had – he was shot 11 times. He had nine through and throughs, which means the bullet went through his leg. Nine through and throughs. He was shot in the back, broke his back, broke both his femurs, bit off his tongue, broke his nose.

34:09 His whole face was smashed in because remember how they did the roll off the mountain? Dude, and he fucking – he had to crawl for seven miles and he said he would draw a line in the sand and he's like, I'm going to crawl until my feet hit that. And if I'm not dead, I'm going to draw another line in the sand and do it again. He crawled for seven miles until that Afghan guy found him. Do you remember that in the movie? No. Dude, I admire that kind of spirit so much, man.

34:35 Never quit spirit. So sometimes when you have challenges, like you don't know what your purpose is, you feel lost. You feel like you're just like a leaf blowing in the wind and that's your challenge. You can't quit. You got to keep trying to find what the purpose is. And again, that's by doing things. That's by experimenting. That's by getting out there, making friends, helping people out, whatever it is, and your purpose will come. And if you don't quit trying to find that purpose, it's going to be that much more fulfilling.

35:02 I mean, for me, I spent a long time as a copywriter, which is basically writing sales copy. And my purpose, again, is to help men. And it kind of took me a while to finally get myself into that niche because I was doing so well with copywriting. It was just the easy thing. Like I had clients. I was getting tons of money. It's like just sit at home and in my pajamas and type up some copy and then go play. But really, my purpose has always been to help men out.

35:28 And now that I'm doing it, it's just now that I'm doing it full time, it's so fulfilling. It's so ridiculously fulfilling. So the fact that I struggled for so long to finally accept that that was my purpose and actually commit to it, that makes it that much sweeter. So if you are struggling to find that purpose, keep going, man, because once you get it, it's going to be that much worth it. Absolutely. So on that note, do you want to end up and talk about the $7 product?

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41:15 I'm actually moving into a house next month, a new house that was built. Congratulations. Yeah. Thank you, man. I'm pretty excited about that. I'm going to have a totally designated studio. We're going to have wicked fast internet in that beast. So, uh, internet should get a little bit better, but hopefully this was better. You know, we had some video going this time. I think it's a lot better, man. I mean, like that was one of our concerns guys was, uh, you know, we have such great content and we've had so many people say that in the comments and in emails, but like we want it to be more engaging.

41:45 So this was our attempt at making it more engaging. So yeah, just let us know, uh, conversation sniper.com. And, uh, you can also get seven strategies to develop your masculinity at get seven strategies.com. Um, Hey, uh, one other thing I wanted to apologize. Like, dude, if I move my fucking head, like one inch away from this thing, it gets really loud and then really quiet. So I'm probably going to buy me a new, this thing's good too, man. Look at that thing. Oh, it looks nice.

42:18 Yeah. Piece of shit. But, um, it sounds like crap half the time, like it gets really loud and really quiet. So we're trying to up our game guys. Be patient with us. Uh, we're going to get it totally dialed in. So hopefully this video is the first step. So thanks again for listening. We really appreciate you and we will see you in the next podcast out.

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